The claim that being LGBTQ+ leads to the end of civilizations is a recurring argument rooted in moral and historical speculation, not supported by evidence. Proponents, such as Camille Paglia and James C. Dobson, have argued that cultural shifts toward gender fluidity or same-sex relationships signal societal decline, citing historical empires like Rome and Greece as examples. However, historical analysis shows these civilizations faced collapse due to complex factors like political instability, economic strain, and external invasions, not sexual identity. Japan’s history, for instance, demonstrates that periods of significant social and cultural flourishing, including the Edo Period, coincided with widespread acceptance of homosexuality and fluid gender roles. Modern arguments often conflate LGBTQ+ rights with broader societal changes, such as the rise of artificial reproduction, but human societies can adapt and thrive through technological and cultural evolution. The idea that civilization depends on a rigid, heterosexual family structure is a contested view, with scholars like Lee Edelman arguing that the societal focus on the “child” as a symbol of future progress marginalizes queerness, which he sees as a necessary critique of reproductive futurism.

• The argument that LGBTQ+ identities lead to civilizational collapse is a modern moral narrative, not a historical fact. It draws on selective interpretations of past empires, ignoring the multifaceted causes of their decline.
• Historical evidence from Japan shows that acceptance of non-heteronormative identities coexisted with periods of peace, prosperity, and cultural advancement, challenging the notion that such acceptance is inherently destructive.
• Contemporary scholars like Lee Edelman critique the societal obsession with the “future” embodied by children, arguing that queerness, by refusing this future-oriented logic, exposes the limitations of dominant social structures.
• The idea that artificial reproduction or non-traditional families threaten civilization is speculative; human societies have survived and evolved through various family and reproductive models.
• Some political actors, like Russia, have used opposition to LGBTQ+ rights as a tool to assert cultural superiority and resist Western influence, framing it as a defense of the “family”.

What Does The KJV Bible Say:

The Bible, including the KJV, does not use the modern term “LGBTQ+” or explicitly state that LGBTQ+ identities or relationships are the end of civilizations. Instead, specific passages are often cited and interpreted in various ways to address same-sex relationships and sexual ethics.

The primary biblical passages referenced in discussions about same-sex relationships are:

• Leviticus 18 and 20 (KJV): These verses state, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination” and “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” These passages are part of the Holiness Code and are often interpreted as condemning male homosexual acts. However, interpretations vary significantly. Some scholars argue these verses refer to specific cultural practices like pederasty (sexual relations between an adult man and a younger male) or male-on-male incest, rather than consensual same-sex relationships between adults. The context of these laws is seen by some as related to maintaining national distinctiveness, health, and lineage within ancient Israelite society.
• Romans 1 (KJV): This passage states, “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.” This is part of Paul’s broader argument against idolatry and the consequences of rejecting God. The description of men “burning in their lust one toward another” is often interpreted as condemning same-sex acts, but some scholars argue it refers to the sexual exploitation of young men by older men (pederasty) or the broader context of idolatrous, self-centered lust rather than committed relationships.
• 1 Corinthians 6 (KJV): This passage lists various behaviors that will prevent individuals from inheriting the kingdom of God, including “fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, effeminate, abusers of themselves with mankind.” The term “abusers of themselves with mankind” (Greek: arsenokoitai) is debated. While some translations and interpretations see this as a reference to male homosexual acts, others suggest it could refer to specific practices like pederasty or sexual exploitation, rather than consensual same-sex relationships.

The idea that the family must be the future or that being LGBTQ+ ends civilizations is a modern interpretation that is not explicitly stated in the KJV Bible. The Bible does emphasize the importance of marriage and family, often defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman (Genesis 2, Matthew 19). However, the Bible also contains numerous passages that emphasize love, inclusion, and the inherent worth of all individuals created in the image of God (Genesis 1, Galatians 3). The interpretation of these passages, particularly those related to LGBTQ+ identities, remains a subject of significant debate and diverse theological perspectives within Christianity.

What Does Hoe_Math Personality Say On YouTube:

Hoe_math is known for creating videos on dating and relationship dynamics, often using charts and diagrams to illustrate his points. While he has not presented the exact phrase, “Being LGBTQ+ is the end of civilizations,” his content advances this viewpoint by equating traditional gender roles and family structures with a healthy society and suggesting that modern dating trends, including what he sees as rising promiscuity, are destructive. 

Hoe_math’s civilizational decline argument

The logic connecting his ideas on dating to broader societal decay is presented through concepts like “luxury beliefs” and cycles of hardship. 

Element of Hoe_math’s Argument	Description	Implications for LGBTQ+
Traditional gender roles	He advocates for a return to traditional masculine and feminine roles, citing research from John Gottman (though his interpretation is disputed). In this view, men “lead” in relationships, and women “respond”.	This framework excludes LGBTQ+ relationships, which do not conform to these specific traditional gendered roles.
Luxury beliefs	He frames modern ideas, including shifting relationship dynamics, as “luxury beliefs” that people can only afford to hold when society is comfortable and lacks hardship.	From this perspective, accepting LGBTQ+ identities is seen as a sign of a society that has lost the moral and ethical fortitude that he claims comes from struggle.
The ‘mouse utopia’ analogy	In a discussion with another YouTuber, he references the “mouse utopia” experiments by John B. Calhoun, which have been used to argue that excess comfort leads to social collapse.	This analogy is used to suggest that when modern society becomes too “easy,” people lose their sense of purpose, resulting in social breakdown. He links this decline to the breakdown of traditional structures, which he associates with broader LGBTQ+ acceptance and other modern dating trends.
The “family is the future” mantra	The argument that only the traditional family can ensure the future is central to this view. Since LGBTQ+ individuals cannot produce biological offspring together, their relationships are portrayed as fundamentally detached from the continuity of civilization.	This forms the basis of the claim that LGBTQ+ identity is the “end of civilization” because it supposedly undermines the traditional reproductive family unit that he believes is essential for societal survival.

The “Hoe_math” persona

Hoe_math’s YouTube channel is marketed with the tagline “HISTORY’S MANLIEST AND MOST HILARIOUS SEX GENIUS”. His content is directed primarily at a male audience and focuses on explaining dating and relationship dynamics in a way that is highly critical of modern trends. 

• He often uses hand-drawn charts and “math-like” equations to illustrate his theories on attraction and value, which have been described as belonging to the “manosphere” or “red pill” community.
• Topics include his “Jezebel curve” for how women rate men, the “friend zone,” and the supposed negative effects of female promiscuity. 

Context for controversy

Hoe_math’s arguments are not isolated and exist within broader debates about family structures, civilization, and LGBTQ+ rights. Arguments that link LGBTQ+ people to societal decay have historically been used to justify discrimination and are widely rejected by sociologists and historians. Critics argue that: 

• The “mouse utopia” analogy is an oversimplified and inhumane model that does not accurately reflect human society.
• LGBTQ+ people have been part of civilizations throughout history, sometimes openly and sometimes in the face of persecution, and are not a cause of civilizational collapse.
• His theories on gender roles are rigid and dismissive of the diversity of human experience and relationship dynamics. 

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Here is a YouTube video to help theses who need to understand someone explaining the important message, the YouTube video is called “Are women ENTITLED or are men WEAK? hoe_math + Adam Lane Smith, Attachment Specialist”, This video is with Hoe_Math YouTube Channel:

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This is a major important point about forgiveness

Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. -MATTHEW 5:24 KJV

Are You Your Own Worst Enemy?

I would start out by saying what Jesus Christ would want us to do? Pray and how should we pray? The Lord’s Prayer, and how often should we pray? Continually. Why do we use the Lord’s Prayer and not some other? The Lord’s Prayer covers all the areas that is important for our spiritual being.

When we pray the Lords prayer we ask to forgive our enemies, let God’s will be done, the kingdom to come. By praying the Lord’s prayer we let go of many thoughts we have in our head and give them back to God so we can have things revealed to us.

We must overcome resentment in our heart, and in a past video I shared about Dr. Jordan Peterson talks about how resentment can destroy us and we become our own very worst enemy and Jordan goes on to say that we must talk to people what we have resentment toward to overcome that resentment. Other people who lived in the past who talked about this is Jesus Christ and someone who is living now who talks about this daily is Brother Augustine, Dr. John MacArthur, Dr. Charles Stanley, Rev. John Piper and Pastor Paul Washer.

Women are looking for a fathers love

Women are looking for a fathers love. Its important that men understand women are looking for a fathers love and not get screwed. Woman more than anything are looking for a strong spiritual man to lead the future (the family). I think in many YouTube videos on biblical teachings, how young women are being hurt by men that are just looking to get laid instead of doing right and being in Christ and setting a good example of a strong man. We must be in Christ, hate no one, love all, forgave theses we resent, love what is right and support people who are walking with God.

Women need their fathers in their lives to be strong man to be good examples and not BETA men or weak examples of what a man should be. Its important that a man leads the way as Christ leads men, we as man need to fellow Jesus Christ to keep society from going to HELL.

Every day you can see or people watch how some men and women our living in hell without the right spiritual order then you will continue your hellish way according to 2 Peter. You can also find it in Romans. God will give you over to a reprobate mind.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient. – Romans 1:28 (KJV)

In Romans 1, Paul refers to something known as a reprobate mind. If you’re not familiar with the term reprobate, the literal definition in the Greek is failing to pass the test, unapproved, counterfeit.

Spiritual Order – In The Family and Church

God the father

Jesus Christ

Father (Men over women)

Mother (Women over children)

Here is Book, Chapter and Verse from the Kings James Version 1 Corinthian 11:2-16, But the main message is in 1 Corinthian 11:3: “³ But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.”

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How You Treat Others Is How You Will Be Judged On Judgement Day

How You Treat People Is Who You Are! On Judgement Day You Will Be Judged How You Treated The Less Fortunate (Open Letter)

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Father’s Rights

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How God Commands Us To Forgive Those Who We Have Resentment Toward.

All of us are tested everyday by our personal internal struggle coming from resentment of what happened earlier in our lives as children typically what our mother did to us, telling how our fathers were not good enough or driving us away from our fathers when we were children. We most go to the people that we have resentment against and forgive them. By forgiving our mothers or whoever we have resentment against, God will forgive us and we can return to the heavenly Father through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

It was said if you don’t love everyone then you love no one. People today live like the Old Testament people did. We must forgive and love everyone as God Commanded us to do according to Matthew 22:34-40.

After Reading The Passage I would Recommend Doing A Silent Prayer

Its is said: Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth. Psalm 46:10 King James Version (KJV)

Jesus is an example of a Fathers loves

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